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Trades that got away 12-December-2006

by Gav Leave a Comment

While I am still working on back testing program, I will start forward testing , but this time, I am paper trading. Dummy trading involves certain degree of pattern recognition, this forward testing will improve my skill in this area.

ES,trend chart turned down. I was looking for any opportunity to establish short position. Short position was taken below 11:50am (NY time) candle, after dummy system signaled.

I have two exit targets. Yesterday’s low served as minimum target (1.3R), and Fib extension (From yesterday’s high to today opening range’s low) 100% as second target (4.6R). Initial plan, I would let the profit run if it broke yesterday’s low. I would cover the position at yesterday’s low if market reversed.

Second target was hit.

Here is the 5-min chart:

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Another trading opportunity was found in E-mini Nasdaq. position was established below 11:55am (NY time) candle. NQ position was closed at minimum target (4.2-R) at yesterday’s low. It failed to reach Fib extension 100%.

Here is the 5-min chart of NQ

[photopress:NQ_short.jpg,full,pp_image]

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  1. Dave Tillery says

    at 2:12 pm

    Gav,
    I need some clarification on your second exit target:

    Previous Day’s (12/11) High: 1415.60
    Today’s (12/12) opening Bar (5-min) low: 1411.29

    1415.60 – 1411.29 = 4.31

    Entry would be on opening of 11:55 bar: 1411.25
    Stop on high of previous bar: 1411.57

    R = 1411.57 – 1411.25 = .32

    (I’m using cash, not futures)… can you elaborate on your math? Incidentally, “Dumbling” took the same trade…I’ll email you results if you like.

    -MagicT

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  2. Dave Tillery says

    at 10:12 pm

    Gav,
    I need some clarification on your second exit target:

    Previous Day’s (12/11) High: 1415.60
    Today’s (12/12) opening Bar (5-min) low: 1411.29

    1415.60 – 1411.29 = 4.31

    Entry would be on opening of 11:55 bar: 1411.25
    Stop on high of previous bar: 1411.57

    R = 1411.57 – 1411.25 = .32

    (I’m using cash, not futures)… can you elaborate on your math? Incidentally, “Dumbling” took the same trade…I’ll email you results if you like.

    -MagicT

    Reply
  3. Gav says

    at 2:42 pm

    Hey Dave,
    I was using futures chart of ES.
    Here is how did I get the second target.

    I used high of 11-Dec 1429.25 to low of opening range (first 5-min bar in 5-min chart) of 12-Dec-2006 (1424), to construct Fib extension.
    Fib extension level 100% was 1418.75. Day low of 12-Dec-2006 was 1417.25. Hence second target was hit.

    I used the existing tool Fib extension provided by Tradestation. So I did not any math work.

    I will send you the chart via email shortly.

    Gav

    Reply
  4. Gav says

    at 10:42 pm

    Hey Dave,
    I was using futures chart of ES.
    Here is how did I get the second target.

    I used high of 11-Dec 1429.25 to low of opening range (first 5-min bar in 5-min chart) of 12-Dec-2006 (1424), to construct Fib extension.
    Fib extension level 100% was 1418.75. Day low of 12-Dec-2006 was 1417.25. Hence second target was hit.

    I used the existing tool Fib extension provided by Tradestation. So I did not any math work.

    I will send you the chart via email shortly.

    Gav

    Reply
  5. Dave Tillery says

    at 2:50 pm

    ok, and regarding the first target, on cash, that was previous day’s close of 1408.56…what do you have for futures?

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  6. Dave Tillery says

    at 10:50 pm

    ok, and regarding the first target, on cash, that was previous day’s close of 1408.56…what do you have for futures?

    Reply
  7. Gav says

    at 2:54 pm

    First target was using Yesterday’s (11-Dec-2006) low of ES futures which was 1421.5

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  8. Gav says

    at 10:54 pm

    First target was using Yesterday’s (11-Dec-2006) low of ES futures which was 1421.5

    Reply
  9. Dave Tillery says

    at 3:13 pm

    Regarding the bar marked with the red arrow. I assume this is the “Entry Bar” not the “Trigger Bar”, correct? In other words, you are making your trade entry on the Red Arrow Bar?

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  10. Dave Tillery says

    at 11:13 pm

    Regarding the bar marked with the red arrow. I assume this is the “Entry Bar” not the “Trigger Bar”, correct? In other words, you are making your trade entry on the Red Arrow Bar?

    Reply
  11. Gav says

    at 3:33 pm

    Red arrow is pointing at trigger bar. I made my trade entry below the low of trigger bar.

    Reply
  12. Gav says

    at 11:33 pm

    Red arrow is pointing at trigger bar. I made my trade entry below the low of trigger bar.

    Reply

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