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Lecture notes series: Percent Risk Model

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Reading notes for percent risk model

This blog post was written back in 2006 when I first started trading. I thought there are some key concepts that are useful to new traders.

I have a habit of writing down whatever I learned, this helps me to ‘burn’ the information into my mind. I did this during my school time as well. I decided to jot down what I have read from books so far in the Lecture Note series.

As mentioned in my previous posting, I am following Percent Risk Model for my position sizing. Of course, this is not the only model available, it is just the approach I applied in my trading.

I have amended the approach to suit my style. Basically, I will define the initial stop level base on the chart. It can be a support/resistance level, straight trend line, Count backline, or swing high/low.

Definition:

RISK – the point at which I will get out of the position in order to preserve my capital. It is x percent of my trading equity, for example, I will risk not more than 2% of trading equity in any trade.

Percent Risk Model – Controlling my position size as a function of the risk. For example, with account size of $50,000, 2% of $50,000 is $1000. That means in any trade, I shall not risk more than $1000 with this account size.

If I got a Long signal for SIMSCI at 289 and I have figured out from the chart, the proper stop loss level is at 287.5. On a one-contract basis, this trade requires a $300 risk. With a maximum risk amount of $1000 available to me, I will be able to buy ($1000/$300=3.33) 3 contracts in this trade.

I quote a portion of Dr. Van Tharp’s explanation from his book

Just how much risk should you accept per position with risk position sizing? Your overall risk using risk position sizing depends upon the size of the stops you’ve set to preserve your capital and the expectancy of the system you are trading.

Dr. Van Tharp

Here goes on the explanation:

if you are trading other people’s money, you probably should risk less than 1 percent per position. If you are trading your own money, your risk depends upon your own comfort level. Anything under 3 percent is probably fine, if you are risking over 3 percent, you are a “gun-slinger” and had better understand the risk you are taking for the reward you seek.

Dr. Van Tharp

He explained the relationship with system expectancy as well:

if you have high expectancies in your system (i.e your reliability is above 50% and your reward to risk ratio is 3 or better), then you can probably risk a higher percentage of your equity fairly safely.

Dr. Van Tharp

The percent risk model is the first model that gives the trader a legitimate way to make sure that a 1-R risk means the same for each item he is trading.

The advantage of this model is, it allows both large and small accounts to grow steadily. It equalizes performance in the portfolio by the actual risk. On the other hand, the disadvantage will have you reject some trades because they are too risky.

These concepts are very important for new traders to understand.

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Talking about $Risk/Reward and winning%, in Twitter-style

by Gav 25 Comments

Risk/reward vs Winning %

Back in 2009, I was very active on Twitter, so did a lot of old-time trader-friends. There weren’t so many “gurus”/”Furus” back then. Twitter discussions were solid and helpful.

Some of them (Twitter friends) had since stopped trading or left social media. It was the good old time. I learned a lot. This blog recorded one of the many conversations I had on the Twitter platform.

The original blog post was written back in 2009. Over the years of blogging, it has been buried. I decided to refresh this blog post since it provides some food for thoughts to new readers of this blog.

We had a short conversation over at Twitter to discuss the importance of a higher probability setup (I assume this implies the setup provides a higher winning rate) and risk/reward ratio. I quoted the Twitter messages here. I thought this is an interesting discussion, and it shows the different risk perceptions, tolerance, and expectation of each trader.

There is no absolute right or wrong. That was just a casual discussion, and we were not trying to convince each other about anything.

Phileo99: speaking of risk/reward, isn’t it a bit overrated? I think the probability of the setup is more important than the risk/reward ratio

you can have a 5:1 reward/risk ratio, but if the trade setup is poor quality and low probability, it is a bad trade to take.

instead of thinking risk/reward ratio, i prefer to think, “where can this instrument go?” “when are the odds in my favour?”

Trader Gav: @Phileo99 No.RR and probability should work together. Nobody is more important. low prob setups need higher RR to survive.

Phileo99 :@tradergav if consistency is the goal, then i’d have to disagree – probability of the setup is way more important than risk/reward

Phileo99 :i’d prefer to hit 10 singles vs. striking out 9times before i hit the homer …. easier on the psyche. losing streaks are hard to take.

Trader Gav: @Phileo99 it depends on your mentality. Profitable strategies can be 40% winning% with 1:3 RR consistently.

Phileo99: @tradergav true – there are different paths to +ve expectancy. we all choose our paths 🙂

Trader Gav:@Phileo99 Right. Common goal is +ve expectancy. Each has his/her own way.

Prospectus: @tradergav I’d rather have a higher probability setup so that the roll of the dice is less likely to bite me. But it’s my preference

Trader Gav:@Prospectus that’s normal. nothing wrong with that. Just personal preference. I weight more on RR and expectancy.

Phileo99: @tradergav I would agree that for system trading, neither is more important than the other. I was speaking from discretionary trading PoV

Prospectus :@tradergav I think that the right personality can clean up on big R:R–we see it all the time among the greats. That’s just not me.

I had some thoughts on this topic.

Firstly, regular readers might have known I favor the R/R concept. In other words, before establishing any trade, the risk/reward ratio is the first figure that being calculated on my screen. And, Yes, it determines if I am going to take the trade.

However, I do not expect every trader or any trader to have the same temperament or risk tolerance. One of my strategies is, in fact, running at around less than 50% winning rate but with high expectancy, in other words, each trade provides a high risk/reward ratio. Man, are you able to accept to be wrong 6 out of 10 times? Who doesn’t love to be always right? But I love $$ more.

Back then, out of curiosity, I took a trial of a signal service of two prominent analysts/traders (guess who? I’m not telling you). The selling point of their strategy was a high winning rate. If I still remember correctly, they claimed to have a 70% winning rate. However, after reviewing their trade history, I noticed, on average, they were making 30 pips by risking 70 or more on each trade.

Here is the calculation.

  • Reward: 30 pips
  • Risk: 70 pips
  • winning rate:70%
  • number of trade =100

Profit = [70 trades x 30 pips profit + 30 trades x (-70 pips loss)] = 0

Assuming trade size is constant, and all losses are taking at full risk amount (i.e 70 pips). This calculation is not the exact math, it is meant to demonstrate the possible effect of risking more than potential reward.

Well, so, with the impressive 70% winning rate, over a period of time, net profit is impressive 0. I did not consider break-even trade, since It did not happen too much in the trade history. 

Winning % and Risk/Reward ratio is a pair of tools. They have to work together. Nobody loves losing streaks. However, you can win 70% of the time, with just a couple of losing trades to wipe out your previous earnings. So…you got the point.

There are two points that come out from here:

  1. You do not need to be right frequently in order to profit from this business. Winning % is not the only factor in profitability.
  2. Consistency, We are talking about trading profitable over the long haul. Trading is not an activity for one to feel good about being right all the time. It is for profit. If you are looking for the ‘Feeling good’ activity, then, look elsewhere. At the end of the day, you need the dollar to pay the bill.

Of course, I am not suggesting one to take sub-par set up with a big risk/reward ratio. That depends on your overall strategies, and that’s a different topic.

The point is risk/reward ratio should part of your consideration when determining if your setup is a quality setup. A high-quality setup should not come with an inferior risk/reward ratio. Be it discretionary trading or system trading. The math remains the same. You got to know why you are taking the trade.

To play around with risk/reward calculation, have a look at my old post Accuracy vs Risk/Reward ratio.

OK, I talked too much.

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What is Mean Reversion Trading Strategy

by Gav 1 Comment

what is mean reversion trading strategy
What is Mean Reversion Trading Strategy

Like it or not, the market spends more time moving sideway than trending. Mean Reversion is the strategy that is made for choppy price action.

In this blog post, I want to show you what a Mean Reversion Trading Strategy and how to implement it in your trading.

Table Of Contents
  1. What is Mean Reversion Trading Strategy
  2. The Danger of Mean Reversion Trading
  3. Components of a Mean Reversion Strategy
  4. Examples of Mean Reversion Strategy Implementation
  5. Closing Words
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What is Mean Reversion Trading Strategy

Mean Reversion
What is Mean Reversion Trading Strategy

Mean Reversion trading strategy is based on the concept that price tends to snap back to the mean or fair price.

Traders initiate trades when the market is deemed to be overextended. In other words, we trade the market that is well above or below their respective “fair value”.

In contrast to the trend-following strategy, Mean Reversion works well during the choppy and volatile market conditions. During this condition, we expect the price to snap back to mean quickly.

The Danger of Mean Reversion Trading

Mean reversion strategy traders often get killed when a new trend emerges. The market could continue moving without going back to the mean in an extended period of time.

Mean reversion traders get flushed out during the trending market.

Secondly, the mean reversion strategy requires a slightly wider stop loss. You need to give the position space to breathe before it snaps back to mean.

You can’t perfectly time the market. But you can manage your trade to deal with the change.

Mean Reversion could be a useful trading strategy if you manage your risk well.

Below, let’s look at some important components when designing a Mean Reversion trading strategy.

Components of a Mean Reversion Strategy

To design a mean reversion strategy, I always keep the following 4 components in mind.

#1 Fair Value

There are many ways to define the Fair Value of your trading strategy. A mean could be (but not limited to):

  • Volume Point of Control
  • Moving average (long term average price)
  • VWAP
  • Pivot Point

#2 Overextended zones

These are the areas that markets are oversold or overbought. Depending on the Fair value, the definition of the overextended zones varied.

Here are some examples for you to work on:

  • For Volume Point Control, value area high low could be used as overextended zones.
  • For Moving Average or VWAP, standard deviation bands could be used as overextended zones.
  • If the Pivot point is used as a mean, pivot support/resistance levels could be used as overextended zones.

These are not rules, but some examples for your reference. I hope you get the ideas.

#3 Entry Methods

There are a few entry methods traders could apply to enhance our odds of success. Candlesticks patterns, order flow analysis, or indicators divergence are some of the most popular entry methods.

The point is to find the exhaustion of price at the overextended zones for better entry timing.

#4 Exit points

Regardless of the indicator you use, you will encounter the situation where price keeps on moving in the extended direction without pulling back to the mean. The new trend has formed.

Just like all trading strategies, it is crucial to define the stop levels and profit-taking. As an example, you could use the ATR (Average True Range) for stop levels, and the Mean levels as profit taking points.

Examples of Mean Reversion Strategy Implementation

Here are a few mean reversion strategies you can study.

Bollinger Bands

What is Mean Reversion Trading Strategy – Bollinger Bands

Bollinger Bands is a popular indicator used to implement Mean Reversion strategy. Bollinger Bands are constructed by moving average and standard deviation bands.

A Simple strategy could be built using Bollinger Bands:

  • Moving Average as the mean (fair price)
  • Standard deviation bands as the overextended zones
  • To time the entry, RSI or Stochastics oversold and overbought zones could be used as triggers.

Keltner Channels

Keltner Channels
Keltner Channels

Keltner channels are very similar to Bollinger bands. It consists of an exponential moving average and average true range bands.

The implementation is similar to Bollinger Bands.

VWAP

What is Mean Reversion Trading Strategy – VWAP

VWAP is another popular technical indicator used for Mean Reversion trading strategy.

VWAP is constructed using a typical price and volume. To implement the Mean Reversion strategy, we can calculate standard deviation bands.

If you are a Tradingview user, make sure to check out my free VWAP standard deviation bands indicator.

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Closing Words

We are always told to trade with the trend. It is true. But the fact is, the market spends more time moving sideways. Mean Reversion Trading strategy could fill the void.

Take the examples above, look deeper to see if it can fit into your trading systems.

If you are interested in learning more about trading, make sure to check out my Back to Basics of Trading series.

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How to trade with ATR (Average True Range)

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How To Trade With ATR
How To Trade With ATR

ATR (Average True Range) is one of the essential tools in my trading toolbox. It is not a holy grail, but it helps me to navigate the trading day and make trading decisions.

In this blog post, I want to go through details of the indicator and how I use them in my trading. Hopefully, it will help you to integrate into your trading system.

How To Trade With ATR
  1. What is Average True Range (ATR)
  2. How to calculate ATR
  3. How does ATR work
  4. Why use ATR
  5. How to use ATR in Trading
  6. How to trade with ATR – Closing words
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What is Average True Range (ATR)

The Average True Range is a technical indicator that was first introduced by J.Welles Wilder.

The indicator does not indicate or predict market direction. Instead, ATR measures the degree of volatility.

Originally, it was introduced for the commodities market. It is now widely used in stocks, futures, and Forex markets.

To understand how the indicator could help you in the trading, let’s look into the logic of it.

How to calculate ATR

To understand the calculation of ATR, you must first understand the definition of True Range. After all, ATR is just the average of a series of True Ranges.

By definition, the true range is the greatest of the following:

How To Trade With ATR – True Range Definition
  • High for the period less the Low for the period
  • High for the period less the Close for the previous period
  • Close for the previous period and the Low for the current period

Take note that, we are comparing the absolute values of the above 3 calculations.

For a 14-period Average True Range,

Current ATR= [(Prior ATR x 13) + Current TR] / 14

  • Multiply previous 14-period ATR by 13
  • Add the current True Range value
  • Divide the total by 14

How does ATR work

# High ATR value

An expanding ATR indicates that there is an increase of volatility in the market. The range of the price bars are getting wider.

A reversal bar with increased ATR indicates the aggressiveness of the move. ATR is not directional. And expansion of ATR value might indicate selling or buying pressure.

A sharp move with a spike of ATR value is usually unsustainable.

#Low ATR value

A low ATR value indicates the narrow range of price bars. Market is moving sideways for a period of time.

An extended period of low ATR indicates consolidation.

Why use ATR

ATR reflects the volatility of the instrument.

Higher ATR figures represent higher volatility and the instrument with lower volatility has a lower ATR.

With the understanding of the volatility, it helps the trader to better manage an entry, stop loss, and profit-taking decisions.

Let’s put it this way.

In a volatile market condition, a tight stop is likely to be triggered before the position even has a chance to develop.

While during the lower volatility period, a wide stop would be a waste. It does not optimize the overall profitability of the trading strategy.

On the other hand, ATR also helps traders to better understand the profit potential of a system. In a less volatile market, a closer take-profit might be more efficient.

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How to use ATR in Trading

There are two important notes you need to understand before start using ATR:

#1 It is a measurement of volatility

The most important thing you need to know is ATR does not measure or predict trend direction. Do not let others tell you otherwise.

It measures volatility.

#2 ATR is not a standalone indicator

Just like other indicators, ATR is not perfect. It should not be used as a standalone indicator that decides your entry, stop, and take-profit.

It should be used as a complement to your trading strategy. And most of the time, it is a great complement to a trading system.

Trailing Stop Placement

Trailing stop is a mechanism for you to exit a trade to either protect your profit or limit your loss.

If trailing stop is part of your trading system, ATR could be a great supplement for you.

As ATR measures the volatility of the market, it could be used to adjust the trailing stop.

Here is how you could use ATR for trailing stop:

  • When you are in a trade, check the current ATR reading
  • Multiply the ATR reading by 2
  • For Long position, stop loss = Entry- 2xATR
  • For short position, stop loss= Entry + 2xATR

It is a common suggestion to use 2xATR. It is not a magic number. It might not work for your market. But you get the idea here.

Give your position a breathing space by including current volatility into your stop loss order.

Daily Range Projection

Another idea to use ATR is to project the trading day’s extremes.

The idea is to use daily ATR values to project current day’s high and lows.

Here is the calculation

  • Calculate 20-day ATR up to yesterday’s close
  • Use current day’s High – 20-day ATR. This is the projected Low.
  • Use current day’s Low + 20-day ATR. This is the projected High.
  • These levels will change when the market makes a new high or new low.

The projected High and Low are the assumed extremes of the day. They could be treated as the day’s target or a trade location for counter trend trades.

How to trade with ATR – Closing words

Average True Range could be a useful tool for both swing trading and day trading alike. It offers traders another perspective on the market.

It tells you the volatility of the market. It helps to adjust trader’s expectations.

Again, average True Range is not a holy grail. Traders could benefit from it by integrating the indicator into a well-defined trading strategy.

Do you use ATR in your trading?

Do you have any questions or comments?

Leave me a line in the comment section. I am happy to help.

This post is part of my Back To the Basics of Trading series.

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Are you trading with Indicators? – A few Suggestions

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Trading with Indicators
Trading with Indicators – 4 Suggestions

I have been working on coding my indicator and strategy on tradingview lately. I thought I would write a short post related to trading with indicators.

There is no shame or a sin using an indicator to trade. Our brains are wired differently.

Some of us can do quick math and analysis on the fly. Some of us rely on graphical presentations to make a decision.

If you have to use a technical indicator or indicators in your chart analysis, I have a few suggestions for you.

Trading with Indicators – 4 Suggestions

#1 Understand the math behind the indicator.

I can’t stress enough the importance of understanding the math behind any technical indicator that you are about to use.

You do not need to be a math genius. You do need to be able to understand basic math operations.

A technical indicator is basically a mathematical blend of data.

We receive open, high, low, close, and volume as the raw data on our chart. We can calculate the average of closing prices, finding the highest volume, or calculating the differences of mean, etc.

What is a moving average? It is the average closing price over a defined period. And What about MACD? It is the difference between long term and short term moving average.

You got what I mean? Indicators are the calculations of the raw data. Each calculation serves a purpose.

Why would you want to use a tool that you don’t understand to help you make financial decisions?

#2 Trade location first, indicator triggers second

Oh boy, the crossover of any lines on the chart always gets traders excited, isn’t it?

Hang on, don’t click that “Buy/Sell” button just yet.

One of the most common mistakes an indicator-trader makes is to follow the trigger signal blindly.

What is the secret of using an indicator trigger effectively?

Trade location.

Over the years of trading and learning, it was the recognition of trade location that turns my trading around.

What is a trade location?

A trade location is an area that is derived from the market structure. Traders are expected to take action at these locations.

A trade location could be a major support and resistance area, high/low volume node of volume profile, borders or trading range, or major swing high/low, etc.

Knowing a potential trade location gives you an edge. But knowing the location alone is not enough. You have to work on your entry technique.

There are many entry techniques. For example, in Futures trading, I am using order flow, while in Forex I have candlesticks patterns and other indicators to help me.

Same thing goes for indicators. After you have identified a valid trade location, a trigger of indicator might give you a good entry.

The point is, don’t use indicators alone. Use it to your advantage.

#3 Indicator, the less is more

One of the common mistakes newbie traders tend to make is having way too many indicators on a chart.

By stuffing the chart with indicators, you are complicating the decision making process. And to worsen the situation, indicators give you conflicting signals.

Try to limit the number of indicators on the chart. The lesser the better. Trying to simplify your decision making process is the key.

#4 Create your own indicator

I encourage you to create your own indicator. Why? Because it is a great learning experience.

By working on the code and the logic, you will learn to look at market data quantitatively. You will learn to understand the market you are trading better.

I always enjoy working on my own technical indicator. It gives me the focus I need, and helps to prove the concepts I have in mind.

You don’t need to create an indicator to start trading. Just take this exercise for the sake of learning.

Trading with indicator – Closing words

There is absolutely nothing wrong with trading with indicators. If it helps your trading, by all means, using it.

Having an indicator on your chart does not make you less professional.

Trading involves a series of decision making. From trade entry, to management, and to exit a trade. It involves different skill sets.

Indicator is one of the tools that can potentially help us in the decision making process. I hope the suggestions above help you to use your indicator more effectively.

If you are interested in learning more about trading, make sure to check out my Back to Basics series.

Do you use an indicator in trading? How do you use them?

Do you have any questions or comments? Feel free to drop me a line in the comment section.

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My dinner conversation with a new trader

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Dinner conversation with a new trader
A Dinner conversation with a new trader

I do not normally discuss or talk about my trading outside cyberspace. The longer I traded, the more I feel uncomfortable talking about it. Maybe, I am just being lazy to explain ‘what is currency trading…bla bla bla’ or maybe I am just a person who is really bad in explaining thing clearly 🙂

Conversation with a new trader

I was having a great dinner at my friend’s place. I still miss the delicious roasted turkey, baked rice, sweet potatoes, etc 🙂 One young gentleman from India mentioned that he is interested in learning Forex trading and consider taking some expensive trading courses. He saw his friends playing with Fibonacci lines, indicators, etc (wow, he knows these terms..) which is accurate 80% of the time. I kept quiet. I really did not want to get into the discussion. However, one of my friends who knows I am trading actively pointed him to me. Oh well…

In the hindsight, probably I was not too friendly to him. My ‘advice’ to him was:

“Yes, I am trading currency actively. However, I do not teach. The risk of this business is too high, so I do not encourage young people to go into that. I am in this business long enough to tell you that. 90% of retail traders failed. I am a little lucky to manage to earn some small money. But, seriously, I really don’t encourage”

Looking at his face…I know my words are not encouraging. ‘Go and try demo accounts, make sure you are able to make some money there, then only start thinking about forex trading’

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What kind of advice is this? I had just given a cold blanket to a young trader wannabe. My bad.

I am not sure if I did the right thing. He might probably go for some expensive trading courses and start with his friend’s 80% accuracy system. That’s not my problem. He might even think I am being arrogant by not sharing anything with him. At least, I did not commit a sin that by telling him, ‘forex is a wonderful 24-hour market, where you can make money anytime, anywhere you want’.

Well…I think I did the right thing after all.

The lesson here? Don’t ask Gav out for dinner and talk about trading.

This blog post was first written back in June 8, 2009. I review it and repost it again as I thought it might be useful to new traders.

If you really keen to learn trading, check out my posts in the Back to Basics of Trading series.

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